{"id":43166,"date":"2017-12-19T11:12:21","date_gmt":"2017-12-19T16:12:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/apa.si.edu\/bookdragon\/?p=43166"},"modified":"2017-12-27T14:47:09","modified_gmt":"2017-12-27T19:47:09","slug":"hidden-light-northern-fires-daren-wang-author-interview-bloom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/apa.si.edu\/bookdragon\/hidden-light-northern-fires-daren-wang-author-interview-bloom\/","title":{"rendered":"The Hidden Light of Northern Fires by Daren Wang + Author Interview [in Bloom]"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"I\u2019ve been hanging with a few serious Civil War buffs the last couple weeks (one of whom is a licensed historical tour guide and descended from a Civil War lieutenant colonel) and I haven\u2019t yet met an \u201cexpert\u201d who\u2019s heard this strange tale about tiny Town Line, New York \u2013 the only northern town that seceded from the Union, and didn\u2019t rejoin until 1946! Despite its anti-abolitionist leanings, Town Line \u2013 15 miles from Canada \u2013 was home to Mary Willis, who was a covert participant of the Underground Railroad.<\/p>\n

Daren Wang<\/a> grew up in Town Line, in a converted barn, complete with an attic basketball court, an indoor swimming pool, and even stray bats. His parents owned and rented out the main farmhouse, part of the property. As much as the barn was an ideal childhood haven, Town Line wasn\u2019t the most welcoming home for a half-Chinese, half-white local son: \u201c[A]s the only minority student in the entire school system, I was called \u2018chink\u2019 by my classmates much more often than I was called Daren,\u201d Wang writes in an article<\/a> for The Atlanta Journal-Constitution<\/em>. He left Town Line for Cornell University, and after graduation headed south to Georgia. He worked in public radio, then founded and became director of the Decatur Book Festival<\/a>. He was known for pulling his Confederate-connection from his wallet: a copy of a 1945 New York Times article, \u201cTown Line May Be Last of the Confederacy<\/a>.\u201d When he googled his Town Line address \u201c[o]n a lark one day,\u201d he found that his childhood home was built by Mary Willis\u2019 father Nathan; the barn served as Mary Willis\u2019 Underground Railroad station.<\/p>\n

Wang tried for a few years to interest some of his many writer friends to take the story. No one bit, so he finally decided to write the story himself. \u201cI fell down the same rabbit hole that has pulled so many Southern writers into their own Wonderland. I had to know the history of the place that made me.\u201d<\/p>\n

Eight years later, The Hidden Light of Northern Fires \u2013 <\/em>in which Mary Willis takes center stage \u2013 hit shelves in August this year.<\/p>\n

Must ask \u2026 do you still carry that NYT<\/em> article in your wallet?<\/strong>
\nHa. No, I don\u2019t carry the article, but I do often carry the shoulder patch from the Town Line Fire Department. It says, \u201cLast of the Rebels 1865-1946,\u201d and has a crossed U.S. and Confederate flag.<\/p>\n

And is it true that you found this story about Mary Willis living in the very house you grew up in, tried to get other writers to tell the tale, and when you couldn\u2019t, you took it upon yourself?<\/strong>
\nYes. I grew up hearing about the secession in Town Line, and hearing stories about the Underground Railroad stop as well. But we also heard the tenants in the old farmhouse talk about seeing ghosts, and they seemed about the same. There was evidence of the Underground Railroad, though. There is a tunnel dug in the cellar wall in the old farmhouse.<\/p>\n

Eventually, I found an oral history about the family, and started to research the area in earnest, just because I wanted to know. I used to try and convince my author friends to write the story because a novel seemed too damned intimidating to me.<\/p>\n

And might I ask who some of those \u201cauthor friends\u201d were? And after, did you send them the book and say, \u201cSEEEE?!\u201d<\/strong>
\nHa. I sent them the book and said, \u201cBlurb, please?\u201d<\/p>\n

Charles Frazier comes to mind. Joshilyn Jackson, probably. Maybe Thomas Mullen. Ed Falco, I think. I actually wrote a few hundred words of this on the same desk that Charles Frazier wrote Cold Mountain<\/em>. So perhaps some of the DNA rubbed off.<\/p>\n

You\u2019ve had many lives before you became a blooming debut author at 51, but almost all your previous incarnations seem to have something to do with writing and books and authors. Can you pinpoint some pivotal moments that finally led to writing your first novel (besides not finding someone else to write Mary\u2019s story!)? How did you get over that \u201cdamn\u201d intimidation?<\/strong>
\nAs I was working through the writing, sitting in my office, wrestling through some bad sentence, I thought of Larry Brown a lot. I interviewed him in Oxford back in 1997. He told me that he burned seven manuscripts when he finally got a book deal, and that perseverance inspired me beyond anything. Larry never had much education, but he turned himself into a fierce, beautiful writer, and I couldn\u2019t help but keep on with it when I thought of him.<\/p>\n

How did you decide what to keep of the \u201ctruth\u201d and what to fictionalize? How did you approach your research?<\/strong>
\nI did everything I could think of to research. Interviewed descendants, went through court records, military records, old house museums, read agricultural newspapers for 1862, went through the old census data. I was obsessed. But my intention wasn\u2019t to write, I just wanted to know about this place.<\/p>\n

The real Mary Willis had 17 siblings, and I wrote a draft with all of them in there. That\u2019s a terrible idea. When I cut the others, it was the first big change I made from the established history, and it felt very freeing.<\/p>\n

I tell people that all the weird stuff is true. Secession, Underground Railroad, Leander [Mary\u2019s brother] joining the army then quitting, Confederate agents on the Canadian border, the Johnson\u2019s Island conspiracy \u2013 I felt like that stuff had to be rooted in history, or people wouldn\u2019t take the book seriously. The everyday stuff \u2013 people falling in love, people dying \u2013 that I played fast and loose with.<\/p>\n

Speaking of love stories \u2026 you have at least two mixed-race relationships (that didn\u2019t involve master\/slave horrors) in Fires<\/em>. Mary and the runaway slave, Joe, take front and center. And you have a short, but rather significant, mention that Nathan had a (non-white) first love who was not Mary\u2019s mother. Were you inspired\/influenced by your own mixed-race heritage to fictionalize these love stories?<\/strong>
\nIt\u2019s funny, but it never echoed for me that way. I can\u2019t say why. Mary and Joe seemed so natural to me \u2013 the local boys think she\u2019s stuck up, but she\u2019s a lover of books and learning. She\u2019s also a farm girl, a woman that works in the field. When Joe comes and she finds him to be a reading companion, she has a true friend. Joe, in that way, replaces [Mary\u2019s neighbor and friend] Verona, Charles\u2019 wife, in her life. The love grows from that.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s a long history of the Haudenosaunee<\/a> [the indigenous tribes also known as the League of Five Nations] on the land where the house is. It goes back several thousand years before Christ \u2013 the artifacts that were dug up are in a local museum in Alden. Nathan was a pioneer, and though the place grew up around him, I always thought that was his central identity. I wanted his constant yearning for the Seneca [one of the five nations that makes up the Haudenosaunee Confederacy] to have a deep-seated reason, and that past romance seemed like a good way to show it.<\/p>\n

After finishing Fires<\/em>, I found a genealogy site<\/a> showing Mary Willis and her husband-in-real-life, John Webster (who appears as Charlie Webster in your book), as having had 10 kids! Did you find any of their descendants still living in Town Line? Have any of them read the book?<\/strong>
\nI\u2019ve been in fairly regular contact with three descendants \u2013 only two are from Mary, another from one of her siblings. They\u2019re excited and receptive to the book, and for that I\u2019m grateful. I did my best to make the fictional Mary real, but also someone they\u2019d be proud of. There\u2019s none in Town Line that I know of, though I did interview one in nearby Lancaster, and another in Alden. Oddly, there\u2019s one not far from me in Atlanta.<\/p>\n

With all the experience you\u2019ve had the last dozen years of running the Decatur Book Festival, I\u2019m sure you\u2019ve been privy to the many ways to market a book. One of the more unique ideas you\u2019ve come up with is arranging a post-reading meet-up with a fellow author to share a local bourbon cocktail and then blogging about it here<\/a>. So \u2026 do tell, tell, tell. How\u2019s that going? How\u2019re the drinks? Highlights, please!<\/strong>
\nThe \u201cBourbon-Soaked Book Tour,\u201d as Publishers Weekly<\/em> termed it<\/a>! It\u2019s really been fun. Part of what\u2019s happened is that people have heard about it, and everyone wants to go out drinking afterward. I\u2019ve got 63 events! That much bourbon will kill me. I\u2019m not a young man anymore. I\u2019ve come to say that I only drink when I\u2019m working.<\/p>\n

Some of the highlights \u2013 get a tour of Cathead distillery in Jackson, MS. They\u2019re known for vodka, but they\u2019re about to launch a bourbon line, so I got to taste early blends as they\u2019re working through the recipes. And getting a drink in Asheville with Charles Frazier is always fun. I had a fantastic Tokyo Old-Fashioned in Chicago last week \u2013 Japanese whiskey. And a drink in the City Grocery in Oxford is always a joy \u2013 something of a cultural touchstone.<\/p>\n

After a dozen years, you\u2019re stepping down from executive directing! What were some of your most memorable festival moments? And the not-so-much-ones? What will you miss most?<\/strong>
\nMemorable Festival moments? The first session of the first Festival \u2013 we didn\u2019t know what we were doing, or how many people would show up. We scheduled a bunch of folks we knew, and one of the New York publishers offered up this romance\/time-travel writer we\u2019d never heard of. We put her in a 100-seat venue. She was Diana Gabaldon. Three hundred very angry women sought me out in the lobby because they couldn\u2019t get in the overflowing room.<\/p>\n

We once staged a wrestling match, sent someone to the hospital for stitches. Also, had the Cherokee dancers on the square at Agnes Scott College under torchlight in traditional dress. A dozen men in body paint and loincloths on a southern women\u2019s college campus. Those are some of my favorite big moments. There\u2019ve been so many kindnesses \u2013 small things \u2013 that I\u2019ll keep forever.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s nothing I\u2019ll miss, though. I am so ready to move on.<\/p>\n

Does \u201cmoving on\u201d mean physically, too?<\/strong>
\nI don\u2019t have any definite plans. Decatur has been a great place to live, but we\u2019ll see what comes. That\u2019s part of the joy \u2013 the uncertainty.<\/p>\n

Georgia has its challenges, but Atlanta, and Decatur in particular, has always been welcoming. I came South right after college. I didn\u2019t have a gig, and didn\u2019t want to stay in the snow and the cold. NYC was appealing, but I didn\u2019t want to be jobless there, so I picked Atlanta somewhat randomly.<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve got to ask \u2013 have you read Southern Cross the Dog<\/em><\/a> by Bill Cheng? Another New Yorker writing a \u201csouthern\u201d novel \u2026 although he never moved below the Mason Dixie Line where you\u2019ve been for decades. He sure got a LOT of flak for writing outside his ethnic box. [How ironic that white authors appropriate<\/a> all the time, but \u2026] Any thoughts?<\/strong>
\nI read some of Southern Cross the Dog<\/em> and liked it a lot. It came out while I was still in writing mode, and I am a terrible reader when I\u2019m writing.<\/p>\n

The ethnic box problem is terrifying for many writers. Joe Bell, the runaway slave \u2026 was the most intimidating character to take on for just this reason. The pendulum has swung too far \u2013 writers should be able to let their imaginations roam free, but many feel like they can\u2019t take on certain subjects because of this kind of stuff. We need to be respectful of who owns a story, but attacking someone for a sincere and respectful effort doesn\u2019t do anyone any good.<\/p>\n

Who currently owns the Willis property?<\/strong>
\nThe property is divided now \u2013 the front house is owned by one family, the barn\/back house by another. I don\u2019t even know who they are. Knocked on the door years ago, but was not invited in.<\/p>\n

Clearly you need to drop a copy of Fires<\/em> in their mailboxes, ahem! Can\u2019t believe you weren\u2019t invited in!<\/strong>
\nI\u2019ll be up there next week. Perhaps they\u2019ll let me in this time.<\/p>\n

The executive directing ending this year will means more time for writing, yes? What\u2019s next?<\/strong>
\nI\u2019m expecting my next book to be about Edward Rulloff. His brain is on display at Cornell \u2013 one of the largest on record. There was a bar named for him in Ithaca, too. He was something of a genius \u2013 spoke 16 languages, practiced medicine and law. Also, he was a serial killer. There\u2019s apocryphal stories that Moriarty in the Sherlock Holmes<\/em> books is based on him. When they were about to hang him, Mark Twain wrote a letter to the New York Herald<\/em> saying that he was too important a human being, and they should hang someone else in his stead.<\/p>\n

I had to look up your Rulloff \u2013 found this from his Wiki page<\/a>: \u201cSome sources claim he gave a speech on the gallows, ending with \u2018Hurry it up! I want to be in hell in time for dinner.\u201d<\/strong>
\nIsn\u2019t that fantastic? What amazes me is that he\u2019s so completely forgotten. I have a book about him called Rogue Scholar<\/em>. Well researched, but it is so tied up in the court records that it never comes to life. It\u2019s going to be a lot of fun to take on.<\/p>\n

Forgotten no more, thanks to you! And, uh \u2026 the Asian mother in me has to add: NO drinking and driving, ahem!<\/strong>
\nI promise.<\/p>\n

EPILOGUE: <\/strong>So how was that Cornell visit? Did you end up knocking on the old door? Or leaving a copy of Fires <\/em>in the mailbox?<\/strong>
\nThe Cornell\/Ithaca visit was great. Eleanor Henderson<\/a> came out and introduced me, which was a real honor.<\/p>\n

I didn\u2019t leave a copy of Fires<\/em> in the mailbox, or knock on the door, but I signed a copy for Mary and left it at her grave. Honestly, I just didn\u2019t feel like showing up at the house again like a beggar. It\u2019s an odd feeling to have that happen at your childhood home \u2013 I think I channeled that a bit for the scene where Mary refuses to let Leander into the house.<\/p>\n

I did do an event at the Alden Historical Society<\/a>, and that went really well. The real joy, though, was going to a little gin mill near the old house for a drink beforehand and being there for the 5:30, end of the day, shot and the beer crowd. I got into a conversation with a maintenance worker at the nearby church. He introduced himself, and I shook his hand and told him my name. He looked at me and said, \u201cHey, you\u2019re the book guy!\u201d<\/p>\n

There ain\u2019t much better than that.<\/p>\n

Interview<\/strong>: “From Family History to True Fiction: Q&A with Daren Wang,” Bloom<\/em>, December 19, 2017<\/a><\/p>\n

Readers<\/strong>: Adult<\/p>\n

Published<\/strong>: 2017<\/p>\n

Author photo credit<\/strong>: Tom Meyer<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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